Buying a Used Motorcycle
by Flyboy (Road-Apples Member)
Since it makes more sense to buy a used bike as a newbie - like myself, here are a
couple of things to look for:
Global
Is the bike clean? A person that can't be bothered to wash the
bike they're selling is more likely to have been neglecting it in other ways.
Was the engine warm when you arrived to look at it? I read
somewhere that some people might warm up the bike to hide the signs of engine problems.
Ask a seller if he/she would mind a test ride (bring a helmet
with you). Offer him/her your car keys and/or credit card to hold onto as an insurance
(some owners might simply be worried that you're going to take off with a bike). If he/she
refuses, walk away. There's plenty of used bikes out there, you don't have to have this
one (Harley lovers excluded you simply have to get that one right there, and no
other). If he/she agrees, ride it at different speeds and go trough all the gears several
times. Listen for the engine.
How long ago was the ad posted? This might not necessarily be an
indication of a lemon, but it could be. Its possible that more keen-eyed shoppers
have noticed what a piece of crap that bike is. Alternatively, an owner might be asking
for too much $$$, but theres nothing wrong with the bike itself. In any case, if the
add has been out for several weeks and the bike hasn't been sold you can bet your ass the
price won't be as stiff as it was when it was first posted. If you can't afford the wait
of few weeks, start thumbing trough Buy and Sell earlier and circle a few to keep an eye
on, or better yet, go to Craig's List. There you can see the date the ad has been posted.
The seller. Don't laugh, it has been proven that people more
often than not are well judged based on their appearance/first impression. If you get that
funny feeling about a guy/gal - you're probably right. Ask a lot of questions (it would be
a good idea to write a whole list of questions to ask in person ahead of time). How they
answer may be a clue as to whether they're lying to you or not. This one is straight from
a top FBI polygraph examiner Jack Trimarco http://www.jacktrimarco.com/ : if a person repeats a direct and clear
question you asked, they're almost certainly concealing something relevant to that
question, and are buying time trying to come up with an answer.
Pay attention to what
they're saying and how they're saying it, but most importantly what they're not saying and
how they're not saying it.
Specific
Engine is too big a topic to cover, and I'm the least of an
expert on this subject, so a mechanic is probably a good investment. But if you're still
reading all this, you're probably interested about the things you can look for yourself.
Like the color/level of the engine oil. Charcoal black is not your color, regardless of
how well it matches the rest of the bike, your boots, helmet, gloves or any piece of gear
you might decide to put on. Ask when it was that a person changed the oil last time. Do
they have service records? If not, ask them who worked on their bike in the past. If it
was themselves, they should be able to answer without hesitation what is the specific oil,
chain lube, etc that they used. If it was the shop, they should be as fast to answer when
asked for the name of the shop.
Also, look for oil on the engine casing, specifically
around the seals as well as around the bottom of it. The seals should be clean and dry to
touch. Dirt sticks to the oily areas so look for dirt on and around the engine.
Fork seals. This is one I never saw on my bike, and I should have. Is there oil below the seal(s) -again, look for dirt? It's not unusual to have a ring of dirt on the chrome above the seal; every time the front suspension compresses, a few molecules of oil that were between the seal and metal are being dragged outside, and will pile up at the highest compression point, collecting dirt. If the dirt rings arent present (use a flashlight if fairings are restricting your vision) and the bike isn't one of those that has that corrugated rubber protection that keeps the dirt out, it has most likely been wiped clean. Feel around for oil below the seals with your fingers. If the fork is leaving oily residue on your fingers at few inches below the seal - you likely have a problem.
Tires. This one is simple; can you see the wear marks the
manufacturer builds into them? If they're flush with the surface of the tire - you're
shopping for rubber (steer clear of Trojans, they're too slippery). Has it been worn flat
in the middle? Look for anything that might be lodged in the tire. Minute specks of debris
are common, bur bolts and nails sticking out of the tire won't give you the much needed
traction, and I'm yet to see someone secure their bike by nailing it to the pavement.
Chain and sprockets work into each other over the time stretching
the chain. While one can tighten the chain by moving the rear wheel backwards, that's
doesn't address the sprocket. When chain is stretched, the distance between two studs at
the ends of each link get pulled further apart. That means that a chain that is wound
around the sprocket isn't pulling all its teeth, but only the top one, causing accelerated
damage to the sprocket. The seller might have tightened the chain recently, but you can
still feel for wear and tear and this is how you do it:
![[image]](http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/clips/chain_elongation_test.jpg)
Pull with the chain with your fingers mid-point-rear on the sprocket.
For most street-oriented motorcycles, when measured like this replacement is warranted
when theres around 1.5mm of movement - being able to pull the chain 1.5mm off the
rear center of the rear sprocket. I got this info from http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/motorcycle/how_to/mc_chains.html,
go check it out, it's all about chain and sprocket care.
Also, if you see any rust
discoloration on the chain that cant be good. Modern chains have sealed
lubricant inside the chain roller mechanism, and rust (and dirt) can damage the nitrile
rubber seal causing the loss of inner lubricant. Yes, thats bad. The higher the
speed the more stress on the chain hence the greater likelihood of it flinging
apart. Try taking a chain to your leg when going 120Km down the highway. It might ruin
your day, but itll make evenings around the campfire rather interesting.
Cables should be free of rust, frayed wires, water, dirt or any
other contaminants. Pull the rubber protection off the handle(s) and peak inside while
squeezing the handle all the way. You should see a 7x7 steel cable (7 bundles of seven
strands wound together), and the fine coat of lubricant (usually felt on your fingertips),
and nothing else.
Nuff from me, Ill let others contribute. Or even correct me
if I was wrong with anything said above